AGMK

I agree with you.

KM

just onething  to insult any religion Huinduism, Islam, Christians etc  in name or artistic freedom is wrong. 
What do u think...

writespice

Just how authentic your theory is can be seen by the long time it took you to inaugrate a new hitherto unknown one. Go to any renowned encyclopaedia and read about Arabian Nights. There is not a mention of that unique theory you try to pedal here. The Prophet Mohamed, (PBUH) who is the continuation of hundreds of prophets before him, like Jesus (PBUH) who were sent to humanity, some with more high profile agenda and some with lower agenda, was chosen to be from the Arabs because until then the whole Arabian Peninsula was fraught with female infanticide, lawlessness, violence and what not. After he brought his message they were transformed into a people who now had a constitution in the form of the Koran.

Unselfish as they are by nature, they decided that this new found knowledge had to be shared with the rest of the world. Like little children who will go around showing off ther new toys or toffees to friends and siblings, they began to spread across the world to spread the message of the Oneness of God.

Contrast this with the colonists who came from Central Asia, the Mughals, the Europeans et al, whose primary motive was loot, domination, imperalism, and subjugation of local population, as we can see in the history of the Americas first in the hands of the Spanish and then in the hands of the white europeans, now called Americans.

For your knowledge the arrival of Islam into India actually precedes the Mughal invasion by a large extent and going by any history of interaction, the publication of the Arabian Nights is much before Arabs or any Muslim came into contact with India. In fact, the epic is based on present day Iraq, which, again for your information was a land known for knowledge and literature. It certainly did not require any input from us for them to write the Arabian Nights.

Please don't get carried away by the delusion that we were then what we are today. We had no name called India then, nor did we have any borders. We were just a bunch of multiple kingdoms and fiefdoms run by various selfish kings and rajahs and maharajahs, all fighting among themselves, looking to hoodwink one over the other and all that. History is replete with such details, if you care to read school textbooks for a beginning. It was the Arabs who began to call us by the precursor to our present name, which was Sindhu, which then became Hindu and then Hind, and then India.

You have once again betrayed a lack of sound knowledge by saying Arabs have no basic humanity. For your information, today nobody has humanity in them. When invading American terrorists go around the streets of Baghdad urinating on small children, mix urine in bottles of water and hand over the bottles to begging Arab children, when a terror nation called Israel can nibble at Arab land chunk by chunk under the noses of pseudo-civilised people like you, I know there is no such thing as humanity anymore. All such talk is just pure academic. But then compare all this and still there is a good amount of humanity left in Arabs.

You must come out of the glass house in which you seem to reside. For your information we are one of the capital countries for incest, we are steeped in corruption, public hygiene is something alien to us, we can kill a ten year old who demands his possession back, as happened just a week ago, we are capital country for killing of female infants, etc, etc, ; where are you? You think just because you wallow in some feel good factor, everybody else is enjoying the same? Look around, you have a lot to learn. But before you do that, shed your prejudices against Muslims.
KM

I don't know what your sources of ill-information are. It was from a learned arab scholar that i learnt most of the traditional teachings and learnings of arab were a result of lootings or interchange from India. Even the popular Arabian Nights, he said, is a manuscript stolen from India and customized to Arab culture. You could verify this from a really knowledgable, learned and honest arab. The truth is that their prosperity is not hard-earned but god given (which might prove to be a curse in the end). The only skill they excel at, then and now, is fighting and warfare, which can be explained by the physical hardships the region endured before it became prosperous. Intellect prospers where is nature is good and stomach is full. We had to bend to invaders because we were poor at physical things like fighting and warfare and our intellect did not rescue us. Thats why its our responsibility to be good and self reliant in all aspects of this world and life. and this applies to arabs as well. 

The only place I might have gone wrong is in the understanding the term anti-semitic. I thought it meant anti-anything thats non-muslim. Arabs partiality to muslims is well-known. No great faith is coming to their rescue if they do not have basic humanity in them.

writespice

Going by some of your ill-informed comments I can imagine to what sources you have been confining your reading to. For your information and education, may I remind you that selling land is indeed a legitimate act and shows the Arabs' trusting nature when they sold their lands to the Jews, unsuspecting of their diabolical well planned motives underwritten and financed by Zionists.

Little did the Arabs imagine that those sales would one day mean they would be asked to leave the land Palestine and be driven out hordes of Jewish terrorists led by none other than men like Menachem Begin, who wen t on to become Israel's PM.

Everyday we all sell land and buy land all over the country as Indians. For example if most land is owned by North Indians in Mumbai does it mean North Indians can drive out Maharashtrians out of Maharashtra in order to make room for more North Indians to settle down in Mumbai? (This is just an hypothesis, and I hold no chagrin against North Indians)

But this is what Zionism has done to the unsuspecting Arabs. Therefore your pitiable defence of Israel's purchase of land and all that is a result of prejudiced reading or plain lack of depth in your knowledge. Today, millions of foreigners who happen to be Jews can come form all over the world and settle down in Palestine, just because they are Jews, just because the white people could not put up with them in Europe and elsewhere.

Your correlation with the situation in the occupied territories and how we Indians tackled invasion into our lands is also completely flawed for two main reasons. Firstly, it is not Arabs who invaded us for your information, and Arabs did not perpetrate sordid deeds on us. It was the Mughals from Central Asia, with whom we are pals today. Secondly, the occupiers, be they Mughals or British, did not ever seek to displace us and replace us with their communities which would have meant a massive transfer of humanity from Central Asia to India or from the Britsh Isles into India. But this is what is happeneing against the Arabs and Palestinians in Palestine under the very hypocritical nose of the world community!!!
By the way here is some more educative news fr you. When you refer to the Arab Israeli conflict, you cannot talk in terms of anti or pro semitism, as you do aping the western press propaganda, because the Arabs too are as Semitic as any Jew. Therefore they cannot work against themselves, can they.

However, I will certainly agree with you the Arabs could have done with more finesse and skill full diplomacy, non-violent methods, and literature, in both Arabic and English, French and German to put forth their points of view to the world community. but then we know what a discouraging prospect that can mean considering their rivals' clout in the publishing community.

But dont worry, Truth must Prevail finally, Insha Allah. Let there be no violence, and less diabolism in world politics.

KM 

Writespice

I shudder to think that I have been discoursing with someone who promotes or, at least is soft on state terror, expansionism, hegemony, might is right syndrome, and all the heady stuff of similar nature which saw humanity go overboard in the first World War and the Second, not to mention the many conspiracies against humanity in the form of the Vietnam War, the French bullying in the Suez, the Apartheid against Blacks in Africa, the creation of Israel by the Europeans in order to get rid of the Jews from their backs, Zionism's influence in the world, and the list of infamy can go on and on, and it has made to come to the conclusion that you are more in favour of might for the bad than for good.

You say it is human trait to grab land, but you do not favourably acknowledge the right and fundamental need for any people to also fight to resist assault on their freedom, on their land etc as the heroic people pf Palestine have been doing the past 60 years now under the eyes of a hypocritical international commuinity.

You say the use of religion and its emotions will not bring results, but you are wrng in two ways. The creation of Israel itself is the result of religious and racist supremacist beliefes for which the Arabs too have adopted similar means to resist. When it all started it was thought by powers of that time that somehow the Arabs will wilter away and lose their determination, but thanks to their religious fervor they ahve been able to keep up the pressure on Israel. Only I wish they do not call for its wiping off the face of the earth, and killing of Jews is stopped, and terror is given up completely.

For you information the Palestinians are not even allowed to call themselves a state or to have an army of their own!!!
When their people elect democratically a government it is shunned by the world!!!

But the nibbling away of Arab land continues unabated!!!!!!

KM

KM

Ok may be i have not been very clear and confused you further. What i meant was that strategies based on religion, garnering sympathy for the innocents getting killed is not going to work, (history proves that when it comes to acquiring land people dying has never mattered much) neither is viewing the west as evil going to lead to a permanent solution. (because what they are doing is very much a universal human trait) Basing the struggle on sound strategies like self-reliance which is what our freedom fighters did through salt satyagraha and foreign goods boycott would yield better results.

writespice
That is the most naive answer one could give. I have news for you. The day we come under the greed or mischief radar of the USA that is when I would like to hear all this naive talk. You did not even have the courtesy to acknowledge the struggles our Freedom Fighters had had to go through to extricate the nation from colonialism in your gloat over "intellectual prowess" and all that stuff you feel so heady about. What happened to that intellectual prowess and education then? If you think those were those days and today the story is happily different, then so be it. The same logic should apply to others too, doesn't it?
There is education everywhere, and there is much more education in thse places than you might like to know.
The only difference is we are not in the strategic scanner until now and I certainly hope we will never come.

KM